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The US has revoked our subscription to part of the Geneva Conventions, and with it, our country's right to be looked to as a model nation.

"Geneva Conventions Not Establishing Source of Rights- No alien enemy unlawful combatant subject to trial by military commission under this chapter may invoke the Geneva Conventions as a source of rights at his trial by military commission."

There's also a part that says that alien enemy unlawful combatants are not subject to the right of a speedy trial. They can be held indefinitely without charges, and the Congress has sanctioned this.

It made me cry when I read this. First, the US invaded Iraq based on the lies of the administration, and against the UN. Now the Congress has handed over the power to do what they will to the President and the Secretary of Defense.

It sickens me. The dozen Democrats in the Senate and the 41 in the House that didn't have the fortitude to vote against this sicken me. I have absolutely no respect left for Sen. Lieberman. Of all the people in the world, a Jewish man should know to stand up against the debasement and persecution of human beings, or has he forgotten the lessons of what absolute power does to a leader with a grudge?

Torture is not this American's value. Acknowledging the humanity of even the most malign criminal is what gives the rest of us our humanity. I want it marked that I am against this bill, this new law. I find it an abhorrent that anyone should even bring such a bill to the table, much moreso that more than half of our representatives would be in favor of it.

I want to thank Republican Rep. Jim Leach of Iowa's 2nd District for standing against his party on this issue. I want to thank Sen. Harkin for supporting real Democratic values by voting against this atrocity. I want to voice my revulsion at Senator Grassley's Yea vote in the Senate. I will be conacting each as I can to let them know how this constituent feels.


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Sep. 29th, 2006 05:42 am (UTC)
Yes, that is the definition of an ememy lawful combatant, and this legislation is focused against those who are unlawful. I didn't realise that the text of the Act that I read was not the full text. The web site that I was reading from puts the documents in sections, so that I only read the first two subchapters, not realising that there was more to read. I have a pretty good comprehension of legalese from my time as an insurance agent, but the complexity of the crossreferences in the entire document is difficult to keep straight. I still don't understand why this legislation is necessary if the Geneva Conventions by their own definitions wouldn't apply to the terrorists. It does at least define some forms of torture that are prohibited.

The site is refusing the search now e_e.

I can't say with any certainty now what the law actually does. How do we know what measures are being taken to ensure that innocent civilians are not being taken as unlawful enemy combatants? What checks are in place to avoid the repetition of the hulimiation and denial of due process of the detainees in Guantanamo?

I'm not saying that Bush is a dictator, but the Congress rarely says no to his wishes. Sometimes, they don't get the chance. Some of our rights, whether Constitutional or by our expectation by precedent are being worn away. It's usually a choking then a slow relaxing, like with the liquids on flights. I don't trust our government anymore. Whether I believe what they believe is right, I don't trust them. I don't feel safer than I did on 12 Sept. I feel more nervous than ever that the America that I grew up knowing is going down a dark path, and using scraps of the Constitution to leave a trail. I feel that if Benjamin Franklin were to see what was happening to our government, he'd be very dismayed by the last 5 years.
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Sep. 30th, 2006 10:09 pm (UTC)
So the reason we need legislation saying that the Geneva Conventions aren't applicable is that the Geneva Conventions aren't binding?

Let's not lose the forest for the trees. This legislation makes George Bush the sole authority on who is or isn't an "enemy combatant" giving him unchecked power to have people "disappeared". Even forgetting the number of times he has proven to us that he absolutely should not be trusted with this power, why should anyone need it in the first place?

So what if the people we've kidnapped and unjustly held prisoner for years on end aren't guaranteed rights by the Geneva Conventions? I'd like to think that human beings could be guaranteed basic human rights by our own goddamned consciences.
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Oct. 1st, 2006 03:08 am (UTC)
Well, considering that every single media outlet that isn't a mouthpiece for the Bush administration (Fox, Washington Times, Wall Street Journal) tells me otherwise, and that I suspect there could be subtleties in its 100 pages that even a legal scholar such as you don't fully grasp, I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree.



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